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Job 8
1¶ Then answered Bildad the Shuhite, and said,
2How long wilt thou speak these [things]? and [how long shall] the words of thy mouth [be like] a strong wind?
3Doth God pervert judgment? or doth the Almighty pervert justice?
4If thy children have sinned against him, and he have cast them away for their transgression;
5If thou wouldest seek unto God betimes, and make thy supplication to the Almighty;
6If thou [wert] pure and upright; surely now he would awake for thee, and make the habitation of thy righteousness prosperous.
7Though thy beginning was small, yet thy latter end should greatly increase.
8¶ For enquire, I pray thee, of the former age, and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers:
9(For we [are but of] yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth [are] a shadow:)
10Shall not they teach thee, [and] tell thee, and utter words out of their heart?
11Can the rush grow up without mire? can the flag grow without water?
12Whilst it [is] yet in his greenness, [and] not cut down, it withereth before any [other] herb.
13So [are] the paths of all that forget God; and the hypocrite's hope shall perish:
14Whose hope shall be cut off, and whose trust [shall be] a spider's web.
15He shall lean upon his house, but it shall not stand: he shall hold it fast, but it shall not endure.
16He [is] green before the sun, and his branch shooteth forth in his garden.
17His roots are wrapped about the heap, [and] seeth the place of stones.
18If he destroy him from his place, then [it] shall deny him, [saying], I have not seen thee.
19Behold, this [is] the joy of his way, and out of the earth shall others grow.
20¶ Behold, God will not cast away a perfect [man], neither will he help the evil doers:
21Till he fill thy mouth with laughing, and thy lips with rejoicing.
22They that hate thee shall be clothed with shame; and the dwelling place of the wicked shall come to nought.
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Bildad: One of Job's Friends Job 8:1
Then Bildad the Shuhite replied:
Character of the Wicked: Forgetting God Job 8:13
Such is the destiny of all who forget God; so the hope of the godless will perish.
Flag: (Rv , Bulrush) Job 8:11
Does papyrus grow where there is no marsh? Do reeds flourish without water?
Forgetting God: Punishment of Job 8:12, 13
While the shoots are still uncut, they dry up quicker than grass. / Such is the destiny of all who forget God; so the hope of the godless will perish.
Forgetting God: Threatened Job 8:13
Such is the destiny of all who forget God; so the hope of the godless will perish.
God: Judge, and his Justice Job 8:3
Does God pervert justice? Does the Almighty pervert what is right?
God: Providence of Job 8:6, 7, 20, 21
if you are pure and upright, even now He will rouse Himself on your behalf and restore your righteous estate. / Though your beginnings were modest, your latter days will flourish. / Behold, God does not reject the blameless, nor will He strengthen the hand of evildoers.
Godlessness: General Scriptures Concerning Job 8:11–13
Does papyrus grow where there is no marsh? Do reeds flourish without water? / While the shoots are still uncut, they dry up quicker than grass. / Such is the destiny of all who forget God; so the hope of the godless will perish.
Growth Job 8:7
Though your beginnings were modest, your latter days will flourish.
Heathen: Bildad Job 8:1
Then Bildad the Shuhite replied:
Herbs: Flag Job 8:11
Does papyrus grow where there is no marsh? Do reeds flourish without water?
Herbs: Found in The Marshes Job 8:11
Does papyrus grow where there is no marsh? Do reeds flourish without water?
Herbs: Rushes Job 8:11
Does papyrus grow where there is no marsh? Do reeds flourish without water?
History: General Scriptures Concerning Job 8:8–10
Please inquire of past generations and consider the discoveries of their fathers. / For we were born yesterday and know nothing; our days on earth are but a shadow. / Will they not teach you and tell you, and speak from their understanding?
Hope of the Wicked Job 8:13
Such is the destiny of all who forget God; so the hope of the godless will perish.
Hope of the Wicked: Shall Perish Job 8:13
Such is the destiny of all who forget God; so the hope of the godless will perish.
Hypocrisy: General Scriptures Concerning Job 8:13–15
Such is the destiny of all who forget God; so the hope of the godless will perish. / His confidence is fragile; his security is in a spider’s web. / He leans on his web, but it gives way; he holds fast, but it does not endure.
Hypocrites: Hope of Perishes Job 8:13
Such is the destiny of all who forget God; so the hope of the godless will perish.
Ignorance: General Scriptures Concerning Job 8:9
For we were born yesterday and know nothing; our days on earth are but a shadow.
Insects: Spider Job 8:14
His confidence is fragile; his security is in a spider’s web.
Job: A Man Who Lived in Uz: Complaints of, and Replies by his Three Friends To Job 8:1
Then Bildad the Shuhite replied:
Joy: Unclassified Scriptures Relating To Job 8:21
He will yet fill your mouth with laughter, and your lips with a shout of joy.
Life: Brevity and Uncertainty of Job 8:9
For we were born yesterday and know nothing; our days on earth are but a shadow.
New Beginnings Job 8:7
Though your beginnings were modest, your latter days will flourish.
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Job 8:1-9 Upon [or according to the] Gittith, probably means that the
musical performance was directed to be according to a tune of that name; which, derived from Gath, a "wine-press," denotes a tune (used in connection with gathering the vintage) of a joyous character. All the Psalms to which this term is prefixed [Ps 8:1; 81:1; 84:1] are of such a character. The Psalmist gives vent to his admiration of God's manifested perfections, by celebrating His condescending and beneficent providence to man as evinced by the position of the race, as originally created and assigned a dominion over the works of His hands.
Job 8:1 Verse 1
thy name--perfections (Ps 5:11; 7:17). who hast set--literally, "which set Thou Thy glory," &c., or "which glory of Thine set Thou," &c., that is, make it more conspicuous as if earth were too small a theater for its display. A similar exposition suits the usual rendering.
Job 8:2 Verse 2
So manifest are God's perfections, that by very weak instruments He conclusively sets forth His praise. Infants are not only wonderful illustrations of God's power and skill, in their physical constitution, instincts, and early developed intelligence, but also in their spontaneous admiration of God's works, by which they put to shame-- still--or, silence men who rail and cavil against God. A special illustration of the passage is afforded in Mt 21:16, when our Saviour stilled the cavillers by quoting these words; for the glories with which God invested His incarnate Son, even in His humiliation, constitute a most wonderful display of the perfections of His wisdom, love, and power. In view of the scope of Ps 8:4-8 (see below), this quotation by our Saviour may be regarded as an exposition of the prophetical character of the words. sucklings--among the Hebrews were probably of an age to speak (compare 1Sa 1:22-24; Mr 7:27). ordained--founded, or prepared, and perfected, which occurs in Mt 21:16; taken from the Septuagint, has the same meaning. strength--In the quotation in the New Testament, praise occurs as the consequence or effect put for the cause (compare Ps 118:14). avenger--as in Ps 44:16; one desirous of revenge, disposed to be quarrelsome, and so apt to cavil against God's government.
Job 8:2 Verse 2
like a ... wind?--disregarding restraints, and daring against God.
Job 8:3-4 Verses 3-4
The allusion to the magnificence of the visible heavens is introduced for the purpose of illustrating God's condescension, who, though the mighty Creator of these glorious worlds of light, makes man the object of regard and recipient of favor.
Job 8:3 Verse 3
The repetition of "pervert" gives an emphasis galling to Job (Job 34:12). "Wouldst thou have God," as thy words imply, "pervert judgment," by letting thy sins go unpunished? He assumes Job's guilt from his sufferings.
Job 8:4 Verse 4
man--literally, "frail man," an allusion to his essential infirmity. son of man--only varies the form of speech. visitest--in favor (Ps 65:10). This favor is now more fully illustrated. 5-8. God has placed man next in dignity to angels, and but a little lower, and has crowned him with the empire of the world. glory and honour--are the attributes of royal dignity (Ps 21:5; 45:3). The position assigned man is that described (Ge 1:26-28) as belonging to Adam, in his original condition, the terms employed in detailing the subjects of man's dominion corresponding with those there used. In a modified sense, in his present fallen state, man is still invested with some remains of this original dominion. It is very evident, however, by the apostle's inspired expositions (Heb 2:6-8; 1Co 15:27, 28) that the language here employed finds its fulfilment only in the final exaltation of Christ's human nature. There is no limit to the "all things" mentioned, God only excepted, who "puts all things under." Man, in the person and glorious destiny of Jesus of Nazareth, the second Adam, the head and representative of the race, will not only be restored to his original position, but exalted far beyond it. "The last enemy, death," through fear of which, man, in his present estate, is "all his lifetime in bondage" [Heb 2:15], "shall be destroyed" [1Co 15:26]. Then all things will have been put under his feet, "principalities and powers being made subject to him" [1Pe 3:22]. This view, so far from being alien from the scope of the passage, is more consistent than any other; for man as a race cannot well be conceived to have a higher honor put upon him than to be thus exalted in the person and destiny of Jesus of Nazareth. And at the same time, by no other of His glorious manifestations has God more illustriously declared those attributes which distinguish His name than in the scheme of redemption, of which this economy forms such an important and essential feature. In the generic import of the language, as describing man's present relation to the works of God's hands, it may be regarded as typical, thus allowing not only the usual application, but also this higher sense which the inspired writers of the New Testament have assigned it.
Job 8:4 Verse 4
If--Rather, "Since thy children have sinned against Him, and (since) He has cast them away (Hebrew, by the hand of) for their transgressions, (yet) if thou wouldst seek unto God, &c., if thou wert pure, &c., surely [even] now He would awake for thee." Umbreit makes the apodosis to, "since thy children," &c., begin at "He has cast them away." Also, instead of "for," "He gave them up to (literally, into the hand of) their own guilt." Bildad expresses the justice of God, which Job had arraigned. Thy children have sinned; God leaves them to the consequence of their sin; most cutting to the heart of the bereaved father.
Job 8:5 Verse 5
seek unto God betimes--early. Make it the first and chief anxiety (Ps 78:34; Ho 5:15; Isa 26:9; Pr 8:17; 13:24).
Job 8:6 Verse 6
He would awake for thee--that is, arise to thy help. God seemed to be asleep toward the sufferer (Ps 35:23; 7:6; Isa 51:9). make ... prosperous--restore to prosperity thy (their) righteous habitation. Bildad assumes it to have been heretofore the habitation of guilt.
Job 8:7 Verse 7
thy beginning--the beginning of thy new happiness after restoration. latter end--(Job 42:12; Pr 23:18).
Job 8:8-9 Verses 8-9
The sages of the olden time reached an age beyond those of Job's time (see on Job 42:16), and therefore could give the testimony of a fuller experience.
Job 8:9 Verse 9
of yesterday--that is, a recent race. We know nothing as compared with them because of the brevity of our lives; so even Jacob (Ge 47:9). Knowledge consisted then in the results of observation, embodied in poetical proverbs, and handed down by tradition. Longevity gave the opportunity of wider observation. a shadow--(Ps 144:4; 1Ch 29:15).
Job 8:9 Verse 9
Appropriately, the writer closes this brief but pregnant and sublime song of praise with the terms of admiration with which it was opened. PSALM 9
Job 8:10 Verse 10
teach thee--Job 6:24 had said, "Teach me." Bildad, therefore, says, "Since you want teaching, inquire of the fathers. They will teach thee." utter words--more than mere speaking; "put forth well-considered words." out of their heart--from observation and reflection; not merely, from their mouth: such, as Bildad insinuates, were Job's words. Job 8:11-13 embody in poetic and sententious form (probably the fragment of an old poem) the observation of the elders. The double point of comparison between the ungodly and the paper-reed is: 1. the luxuriant prosperity at first; and, 2. the sudden destruction.
Job 8:11 Verse 11
rush--rather, "paper-reed": The papyrus of Egypt, which was used to make garments, shoes, baskets, boats, and paper (a word derived from it). It and the flag, or bulrush, grow only in marshy places (such as are along the Nile). So the godless thrives only in external prosperity; there is in the hypocrite no inward stability; his prosperity is like the rapid growth of water plants.
Job 8:12 Verse 12
not cut down--Before it has ripened for the scythe, it withers more suddenly than any herb, having no self-sustaining power, once that the moisture is gone, which other herbs do not need in the same degree. So ruin seizes on the godless in the zenith of prosperity, more suddenly than on others who appear less firmly seated in their possessions [Umbreit] (Ps 112:10).
Job 8:13 Verse 13
paths--so "ways" (Pr 1:19). all that forget God--the distinguishing trait of the godless (Ps 9:17; 50:22).
Job 8:14 Verse 14
cut off--so Gesenius; or, to accord with the metaphor of the spider's "house," "The confidence (on which he builds) shall be laid in ruins" (Isa 59:5, 6).
Job 8:15 Verse 15
he shall hold it fast--implying his eager grasp, when the storm of trial comes: as the spider "holds fast" by its web; but with this difference: the light spider is sustained by that on which it rests; the godless is not by the thin web on which he rests. The expression, "Hold fast," properly applies to the spider holding his web, but is transferred to the man. Hypocrisy, like the spider's web, is fine-spun, flimsy, and woven out of its own inventions, as the spider's web out of its own bowels. An Arab proverb says, "Time destroys the well-built house, as well as the spider's web."
Job 8:16 Verse 16
before the sun--that is, he (the godless) is green only before the sun rises; but he cannot bear its heat, and withers. So succulent plants like the gourd (Jon 4:7, 8). But the widespreading in the garden does not quite accord with this. Better, "in sunshine"; the sun representing the smiling fortune of the hypocrite, during which he wondrously progresses [Umbreit]. The image is that of weeds growing in rank luxuriance and spreading over even heaps of stones and walls, and then being speedily torn away.
Job 8:17 Verse 17
seeth the place of stones--Hebrew, "the house of stones"; that is, the wall surrounding the garden. The parasite plant, in creeping towards and over the wall--the utmost bound of the garden--is said figuratively to "see" or regard it.
Job 8:18 Verse 18
If He (God) tear him away (properly, "to tear away rapidly and violently") from his place, "then it [the place personified] shall deny him" (Ps 103:16). The very soil is ashamed of the weeds lying withered on its surface, as though it never had been connected with them. So, when the godless falls from prosperity, his nearest friends disown him.
Job 8:19 Verse 19
Bitter irony. The hypocrite boasts of joy. This then is his "joy" at the last. and out of the earth--others immediately, who take the place of the man thus punished; not godly men (Mt 3:9). For the place of the weeds is among stones, where the gardener wishes no plants. But, ungodly; a fresh crop of weeds always springs up in the place of those torn up: there is no end of hypocrites on earth [Umbreit].
Job 8:20 Verse 20
Bildad regards Job as a righteous man, who has fallen into sin. God will not cast away a perfect man--(or godly man, such as Job was), if he will only repent. Those alone who persevere in sin God will not help (Hebrew, "take by the hand," Ps 73:23; Isa 41:13; 42:6) when fallen.
Job 8:21 Verse 21
Till--literally, "to the point that"; God's blessing on thee, when repentant, will go on increasing to the point that, or until, &c.
Job 8:22 Verse 22
The haters of Job are the wicked. They shall be clothed with shame (Jer 3:25; Ps 35:26; 109:29), at the failure of their hope that Job would utterly perish, and because they, instead of him, come to naught.
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Job 8:1-7 Verses 1-7
Job spake much to the purpose; but Bildad, like an eager, angry disputant, turns it all off with this, How long wilt thou speak these things? Men's meaning is not taken aright, and then they are rebuked, as if they were evil-doers. Even in disputes on religion, it is too common to treat others with sharpness, and their arguments with contempt. Bildad's discourse shows that he had not a favourable opinion of Job's character. Job owned that God did not pervert judgment; yet it did not therefore follow that his children were cast-aways, or that they did for some great transgression. Extraordinary afflictions are not always the punishment of extraordinary sins, sometimes they are the trials of extraordinary graces: in judging of another's case, we ought to take the favorable side. Bildad puts Job in hope, that if he were indeed upright, he should yet see a good end of his present troubles. This is God's way of enriching the souls of his people with graces and comforts. The beginning is small, but the progress is to perfection. Dawning light grows to noon-day.
Job 8:8-19 Verses 8-19
Bildad discourses well of hypocrites and evil-doers, and the fatal end of all their hopes and joys. He proves this truth of the destruction of the hopes and joys of hypocrites, by an appeal to former times. Bildad refers to the testimony of the ancients. Those teach best that utter words out of their heart, that speak from an experience of spiritual and divine things. A rush growing in fenny ground, looking very green, but withering in dry weather, represents the hypocrite's profession, which is maintained only in times of prosperity. The spider's web, spun with great skill, but easily swept away, represents a man's pretensions to religion when without the grace of God in his heart. A formal professor flatters himself in his own eyes, doubts not of his salvation, is secure, and cheats the world with his vain confidences. The flourishing of the tree, planted in the garden, striking root to the rock, yet after a time cut down and thrown aside, represents wicked men, when most firmly established, suddenly thrown down and forgotten. This doctrine of the vanity of a hypocrite's confidence, or the prosperity of a wicked man, is sound; but it was not applicable to the case of Job, if confined to the present world.
Job 8:20-22 Verses 20-22
Bildad here assures Job, that as he was so he should fare; therefore they concluded, that as he fared so he was. God will not cast away an upright man; he may be cast down for a time, but he shall not be cast away for ever. Sin brings ruin on persons and families. Yet to argue, that Job was an ungodly, wicked man, was unjust and uncharitable. The mistake in these reasonings arose from Job's friends not distinguishing between the present state of trial and discipline, and the future state of final judgment. May we choose the portion, possess the confidence, bear the cross, and die the death of the righteous; and, in the mean time, be careful neither to wound others by rash judgments, nor to distress ourselves needlessly about the opinions of our fellow-creatures.